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Post by SeanyC on Nov 3, 2004 11:25:03 GMT -5
theres more and stuff but i put some important ones there..ill be voting lib dem
also anyone show me a party looking to banish the monarchy thanks
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Post by Bazza on Nov 3, 2004 14:22:45 GMT -5
I've voted Labour in the past, but can see myself voting for them again. But I wouldn't vote for any of the other parties listed either. Probably the only party I've vote for at present is the IWCA
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Post by ijthomas7 on Nov 5, 2004 6:50:09 GMT -5
Can I just point anybody, who is disillusioned with the Labour party's vicious right-ward looking policies and the fact that our government is still supporting an unjustified and illegal war, in the direction of Respect - the unity coalition. Also, if you get a chance to hear George Galloway speak, then do so, as he will restore your faith in politics.
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Post by Bazza on May 3, 2005 10:12:25 GMT -5
Well, it's the general election this Thursday (5th May). I think Labour will be re-elected due to the fact that the opposition is so poor. But I won't be voting for them.
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Post by Bazza on May 3, 2005 10:28:07 GMT -5
Here's a website for any undecided voters out there - www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/My result - Your actual outcome: Labour 15 Conservative -52 Liberal Democrat 81 UKIP -28 Green 77 You should vote: Liberal Democrat The LibDems take a strong stand against tax cuts and a strong one in favour of public services: they would make long-term residential care for the elderly free across the UK, and scrap university tuition fees. They are in favour of a ban on smoking in public places, but would relax laws on cannabis. They propose to change vehicle taxation to be based on usage rather than ownership
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Post by irnbru on Apr 3, 2006 17:51:22 GMT -5
I have always been a Labour voter, joined in 1985 at a Billy Bragg gig in the barrolands in Glasgow, although I am not to happy with some of there policies lately, the are losing touch with the working classes and following america's lead in iraq.
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Post by chuckwilson on Apr 30, 2006 17:15:04 GMT -5
IWCA for me.
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Post by Bazza on May 1, 2006 7:39:52 GMT -5
There's a lot of talk in the press at the moment saying that the BNP will be making big gains during the upcoming local elections. I hope it's not true, but I heard a few people in the pub last night who I wouldn't consider to be racist saying that they would be voting for them as they are that pissed off with Labour. I did my best to talk them out of it and hopefully I got through to them.
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Post by VenusInFurs on May 1, 2006 19:12:06 GMT -5
but I heard a few people in the pub last night who I wouldn't consider to be racist saying that they would be voting for them as they are that pissed off with Labour. I did my best to talk them out of it and hopefully I got through to them. Yeah, Tony Parsons wrote a great article in The Mirror last week about how Labour are alienating young male working class voters who are seriously thinking going BNP and how it's not a good idea.
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Post by Bazza on May 2, 2006 4:17:34 GMT -5
The BNP currently have just 20 councillors, out of a national total of over 8,000, yet the majority of even this small number have failed. They include the ‘Dirty Dozen’:
Luke Smith (Burnley). Was forced to resign after he smashed a bottle into the face of a Leeds BNP organiser. Despite claiming to be the party of law and order, the BNP failed to call in the police and press charges. Smith had only recently been convicted of football violence when he was elected as a BNP candidate. He has had several more recent convictions and was sentenced to 11 months imprisonment after being caught fighting in Manchester.
Brian Turner (Burnley). Was convicted of attacking his wife and a police officer whilst a councillor yet the BNP refused to disown him. In fact they even defended him by issuing a statement saying: “we are not in the business of persecuting our members because the state considers someone guilty.”
Dan Kelley (Barking & Dagenham). Resigned from the council only eight months after being elected after admitting that he was completely out of his depth. “There’s meetings that go right over my head and there’s little point in me being there,” he told the local paper even before he resigned.
Richard Mulhall (Calderdale). Is currently facing charges on housing benefit fraud. Despite this the BNP has refused to disown him or demand his resignation if he is found guilty.
Maureen Stowe (Burnley). Left the BNP after admitting that they deliberately told lies to get elected. On leaving the BNP she said: “This is the best thing I could have done. I’ve got a chance to do a lot of good. Now I think we can pull all the people of Burnley together to improve things for everybody. I keep asking myself how could I have been so stupid as to have anything to do with them.”
Robin Evans (Blackburn). Left the BNP after complaining about the drug dealers and football hooligans who dominated his local BNP branch. He also criticised the Burnley BNP councillors as useless.
David Watkins (Sandwell). Dubbed ‘possibly the worst councillor in Sandwell,’ Watkins attended just 10 out of 63 meetings. Gave up after just one year.
Steve Batkin (Stoke-on-Trent). Steve Batkin attended none of a possible thirty committee meetings in the nine months to March 2005. Batkin has only spoken twice in his first two years as a councillor and one of those was to ask what “abstain” meant. Was once told to stop talking to the media after he questioned key facts relating to the Holocaust, including saying that Jewish people refused to debate the subject because they would be exposed as liars.
Angela Clarke (Bradford). Resigned from the council less than half-way through her term after her performance was criticised by fellow BNP members.
Terry Farr (Epping). Was suspended by the Standards Board after writing abusive letters. The hearing also said that it was fair political comment for a rival candidate to call the BNP Nazi.
Ramon Johns (Broxbourne). Was elected on the promise to campaign for free bus passes for all the elderly but then immediately voted against such a plan once elected.
James Lloyd (Sandwell). Campaigned on a ticket to make parents responsible for the crimes of their children. What he failed to tell voters was that his own son was one of the areas worst offenders. Also recently put out BNP leaflets claiming a local library building was going to become a mosque. When it was proved that this was a lie he did not apologise but simply claimed that somebody had obviously made up quotes from him.
Adrian Marsden (Calderdale). The absent councillor. In the six months to March 2006, Marsden has attended just three council meetings and his work record for his ward constituents has been even worse. However, he managed to find the time and strength to act as a bodyguard to BNP leader Nick Griffin during the recent court case in Leeds. But then again, what can you expect from a man with several convictions and a long history with the violent neo-nazi group Combat 18.
Geoffrey Wallace (Calderdale). Wallace jumped ship from the Tories when he thought he could not win a council seat under the blue flag but refused to call a by-election. He too stood on a ticket to help local people but his record proves he has done nothing of the kind. His recent performance in dealing with casework from local residents is truly shocking and clearly demonstrates his inability to work for local people. In the four months to February 2006 he did only 14.5 hours casework, and all but three were in the last few weeks.
So the next time the BNP campaign on how wonderful a BNP councillor will be, just remember the failed record of the recent councillors. No wonder they have earned the tag of ‘the do-nothing councillors’.
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Post by VenusInFurs on May 2, 2006 18:01:31 GMT -5
Richard Mulhall (Calderdale). Is currently facing charges on housing benefit fraud. That's the one that gets me - white supremacist groups always bitch about how minorities live off the government with public housing and welfare, yet they do the same thing themselves. It really isn't that much different in America.
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Post by Bazza on May 5, 2006 4:17:49 GMT -5
New Labour didn't do to well during yesterdays local elections. Sad to see the BNP picking up seats as well.
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Labour suffer a drubbing in local council elections.
In Labour's worst electoral bloodbath since Mr Blair came to power, the party is expected to have lost more than 250 councillors across England as well as control of more than a dozen town halls.
Jubilant Conservatives were claiming that they were set to break through the 40 per cent level in overall share of the vote and gain more than 200 seats.
Supporters of David Cameron hailed the result as a vindication of his decision to reshape the party since he won the leadership last December.
The disastrous results led to calls from Labour backbenchers for Mr Blair to set out a timetable to hand over the premiership to his presumed successor, Chancellor Gordon Brown.
Former health secretary Frank Dobson said the reshuffle would amount to no more than "rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic'' and insisted the party needed "new management''.
And a close ally of the Chancellor, former minister Nick Brown, suggested Mr Blair may not be the man to reverse Labour's "drift''.
Reports suggested that Mr Blair's deputy John Prescott would publicly take the brunt of the blame for the electoral debacle. But it was unclear whether he would pay the ultimate price in the reshuffle.
Also thought to be vulnerable in the shake-up of the Government's frontbench team is Charles Clarke, despite Mr Blair's repeated insistence that the Home Secretary should be allowed to stay on to sort out problems with the deportation of foreign prisoners. With some 23 million people - half the UK electorate - entitled to go to the polls in 176 local authorities in England, Thursday's ballot was the largest electoral test ahead of the general election expected in 2009 or 2010.
Labour's worst losses were in London, where it was toppled from power in Merton, Camden, Lewisham and Bexley and Hammersmith and Fulham.
In Barking and Dagenham, the far-right British National Party won 11 of the 13 seats it contested, while it also picked up council seats in Solihull, Stoke-on-Trent and Sandwell in the West Midlands.
Conservative success in London and the shires was not repeated in the large cities of the north, with Mr Cameron failing in his effort to establish a toehold in places such as Manchester and Newcastle and coming fourth to the Greens in Liverpool.
Liberal Democrats increased their majority in flagship council Newcastle upon Tyne but failed to make the breakthrough they were hoping for when they replaced former leader Charles Kennedy with Sir Menzies Campbell earlier this year.
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Post by Bazza on May 5, 2006 5:01:40 GMT -5
The results so far from yesterdays local elections
161 of 176 councils declared
Party...Seats (net)....Total..Councils(net)...Total
Labour -234 ...............1014 ......-17................ 23 Cons +247...................1507..... +12............... 67 LibDem +1 ...................735........+1.................13 Greens +14.................. 20......... 0....................0 BNP .....+13..................13...........0....................0 Other ...-42..................133.........0....................0 NOC.......n/a.................n/a..........4...................58
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Post by stillonfire on May 20, 2006 7:53:18 GMT -5
I found the results of the the local elections to be grim on the whole, the BNP picked up an extra 27 councilors, yes, this may not sound like alot, but just look at the results of many ward breakdowns and you'll see the BNP a close second place pushing Labour, and occasionaly the tories, just up the road from me in Fieldway, the BNP candidate scored 24% of the vote, only narrowly missing one of the two seats.... this is very worrying. New Labour don't care about the ordinary working man and woman, the "big tent" strategy has alienated this group with many ethnic working class going to RESPECT, or even Green and as we know, many white working class voters going to the BNP and perhaps even more frightening some voting EFP!... with a small amount also going RESPECT, or Green. The BNP despte how much we all hate them are very clever, one look at there website and you would be forgiven for thinking it was the official website of The Sun, with there arcticles written in the same vain, blaiming all are troubles immigrants (much like every policy of theres). The BNP have finaly learnt to take up a position simular to there european counterparts. It's easy for groups like Unite Against Fascism or Searchlight Magazine to tell people to vote for anyone but the BNP, but with no real alternaive, these people will vote BNP, it doesn't make them racists though... many really believe this nasty vile party are a party backing the working class man or woman. The Left in my book are also to blame, with many groups willing to close there eyes to the rise of the BNP, i maybe wrong here, but i've been informed there is something like 57 socialist/communist political parties, all of various sizes and membership and with slightly different views. These groups need to learn theres a bigger problem right now, they need to put an end to there petty backward looking squabling, an agrument on whether Trotsky or Stallin was right is not what we need now, but a bright modern alternative, in the same vain as the SSP in Scotland is just what we need in England. Yes we do have RESPECT, and i'm sorry if i upsent anyone now, but i feel they pander to much to the muslim and anti-war vote and will never get much bigger then they are now and as for those in Labour that consider themselves socialists, who are they kidding, leave now, you lost the battle when tony benn lost the leadership challenge against neil kinnock in 88.
Oh and in case anyone is wondering, i went to vote, was upset with what was on offer, wrote Socialist Alternative on the top of my ballot paper and gave it a cross.
I apologise for the legnth of my post, i just needed to vent it out.
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Post by Bazza on May 20, 2006 8:29:07 GMT -5
Oh and in case anyone is wondering, i went to vote, was upset with what was on offer, wrote Socialist Alternative on the top of my ballot paper and gave it a cross. There wasn't a local election in my area. But at the last general election I did a similar thing by writing "none of the above" on the bottom of my ballot paper. I did intent to vote but couldn't when I found out the only choice I had was between New Labour, Lib Dems, the Tories, bnp & ukip. Where was Respect or the green party?
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